Then you should now be talking to HMRC for Overpayment relief! Latest stats suggest the 6% inside is now being settled with HMRC as 94% inside... meaning Defra is retrospectively agreeing to pay all appropriate taxes. Meaning if you paid any Corporation Tax, Employee/Employer NI or Income Tax you can start to reclaim it back. The accounting logic is... All sales need to change to owner equity. Because the money paid into the Ltd Co is yours personally not the sales. Therefore it does not attract CT. Then, to all intents your business is spending your money, so all those deductions that would have reduced profit (which is reduced with no income) need to be journaled out as use of owner equity. The net result is you need to file new CT and accounts with new accounting logic and then ask for overpayments back from HMRC. Then you move onto NI and PAYE as seperate conversations.

Same team, same project same work and even using all are using Defra laptops to deliver their work and one contractor is Inside IR35 and another is outside IR35, this is unfair

Inside IR35 role with no opportunity to go PAYE directly with AdRoc. Now that the hourable member of the 18th century is forcing everyone to go back into the office, my contract was not extended on my last day of work. The reason being, I refused to start to go into the office even though I was previously given an exemption due to Covid. Happy Boris has been booted out though, ***king useless PM!

Blanket ban. Have been advertising outside IR35 roles but now all inside through Alexander Mann

New CDIO has set out a hostile environment for contractors. Most have left. Lorien are late payers.

Despite a great deal of hard work to ensure contracts were outside IR35, halfway through the contract they were changed to inside with no real right of appeal. Roles hadn’t changed, just the threat of another fine from HMRC. The message was that so long as there is a Ltd company at the end of the payment chain then the role is inside IR35

Accepted a role here during height of pandemic. Day rate was quite poor and had to use one of four "recognised" umbrellas. There was no SDS and "policy" was contractors had to use "recognised" umbrella. Only took role as I hadn't worked for months and have never worked with such a collection of poorly skilled contractors (you truly do get what you pay for). Luckily found something else once market recovered and left contract early. Umbrella also messed up my timesheets and I was underpaid for weeks.

Reversed decisions of 12 months previous due to incorrect guidence by a unknowledged 'expert' leading to blanket decisions justified by false, untested assumptions and unfair, ill informed appeals process. Not even following HMRC guidance. Such a shame.

Contractual adjustments done by HR (violating the law) for a few to keep them outside. This illegal practice will be reported to HMRC. Blanket decision as inside for rest of us when doing the same work so have declined.

Assignment advertised as outside IR35 as project-based, told at interview it was definitely outside IR35, offered assignment and was provided SDS confirming outside IR35. Spent weeks being onboarded, referenced, vetted etc then told day before start date that my IR35 status had to be assessed again via CEST. Then told I was now inside but could appeal to organisation's "tax department" if I wanted to. Told agent I was declining the offer.

Blanket ban. Been informed that every contract inside IR35 after instruction from MoJ management and HMRC. Actual working practices suggest otherwise. No SDS provided even after many requests.

Told roles for this area of MoJ are all inside, no exceptions. Rate uplift is its only saving grace. However, employers NI has been taken off my gross rate. AdRoc and CK are a pair of !#$%!

Originally PSC and Outside. Policy revised April 2021 to no PSCs - all forced via Umbrella.

Outside IR35 contract with statement of works. True outside conditions. Extensions very rare, due to the nature of the works. Treated fairly, SoW completed successfully. Each department/agency behaves differently, so it is difficult to negotiate if the contract is deemed inside IR35, as this status cannot be changed due to the open nature of the tender portal used to broadcast bid for works.

DfE are only recruiting contractors through PSR (public sector recruitment agency) who ensure that everyone brought in is inside IR35, unless of course you manage to be part of a Director’s pet project when whole teams will be made up from consultants.

SDS provided, great client and fair treatment of contractors.

Great process using QDOS to do the assessment

This is about The Office Of Nuclear Regulation (ONR), It’s important here to note that the ONR is PUBLIC sector, and the off payroll rules have applied for a number of years. A number of developers have been working at the ONR since the 4th quarter of 2020 on an outside IR35 basis. In the first week of March 2021 the same developers out of nowhere, received a declaration that they are inside IR35 and that from April they would be forced to work on an inside IR35 basis. No warning, no discussion nothing. It also turns out that the information put into CEST (and CEST only) about working practices was inaccurate and came out as definitively inside (putting doubts on the entire duration of the contract). The process has been blanket for all of us (done individually but just copied for each contractor). When the developers put the correct details into CEST, it did come out as "inconclusive”. The ONR have no reason what so ever to change their approach at this time. The whole process has been driving by one person (who works inside IR35 – correctly in his case) and has fed back to senior management that this is the correct course of action. No transparency, no clarity, no fairness towards the developers caught up in this. We speculate as to whether this individual was driven by jealousy or ignorance of how the rules apply – specific ignorance about not understanding that the April changes apply to the private sector and that the ONR are already under these rules. A new developer joined the team at the start of March - after being told the contract would be outside IR35 for the duration. He had a week working before becoming involved in this mess. According to him, he turned down other outside IR35 roles to take up this contract. The politest way of putting it is that he has “strong feelings” about the way he has been treated. The remaining developers are also pretty angry about this. The ONR have stonewalled any possible way to resolve this and are treating the contractors as disposable despite those of us who have been there for a while having so much knowledge of the project it would delay things by months if we left. We do not feel like we’ve been treated as human beings let alone valued for our knowledge of the system and work provided so far. As yet, no new financial terms have been offered, and as of March 21st we have no idea how things will work going forward, using existing rates, being offered new rates, which umbrella to use, are we going through PAYE etc…. It also appears that the ONR have been advertising the still occupied developer roles as vacant. Developers have become aware of this, and are either leaving for new roles, or walking out without a new role.

Fair Assessment and Individual determination statements.

Quick assessment based for those working on defined project delivery requirements.

No IR35 assessment. Only via umbrella company. Half of wages gone on umbrella company fees. It don’t make sense no more.

Home Office SADI team are recruiting for contractor service architects inside IR35 to work alongside existing contractor service architects who are on outside ir35 contracts. SADI are ramping down outside contracts at point of renewal whist bringing in new contractors inside IR35. This seems to completely contradict ‘the ruleset’ i.e. how can the same work / same resource pool be both inside and outside at the same time? This seems to be NOT “about fairness you see?” Agencies are also stating existing SC as a hard requirement - which I thought was not allowed.

Thoroughly and fairly assessed.

Blanket assessment of all contractors not from the big consultancies as inside using the flawed CEST tool. Directly Informing HMRC of results for all contractors. Teams running the assessment are not even the hiring managers and just making up the assessments, then ignoring corrections from hiring managers. Appeal process also flawed. Very poor feedback on status from very unprofessional people. Refusing to explain why larger consultancies are not being found 'inside' despite identical hiring contracts (such as BLOOM and DOS). Projects going south. Mayhem and chaos.

Blanket role based assessment to Inside IR35. Completed in the middle of the contract with no information or appeal channel done with 10 working days notice. Take it or leave it offer - no uplift in rate.